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| RACHEL APPOH |
UNKOWN
LADY: On radio today, they called her (Rachel’s) Chief; the Chief of
her place. Is it Daily Guide? So, they were discussing it on Okay FM.
And they placed a call to one of their Chiefs. He said (inaudible voice)
they won't sit there. Their royal has come to tell them that she's not
happy and does not have an office.
UNKNOWN LADY: And I said; so,
this girl is so foolish to this extent that she can go to the Chiefs and
tell them what goes on in the Ministry. That they won't sit down for
Nana Oye Lithur to mistreat their royal.
UNKNOWN LADY: (Inaudible voice) then, she should resign. They won't allow it. Oh! So, Kwame Nkrumah ask him that Nana, I plead with you, please have you also gone to ask Maame Oye Lithur regarding the seeming bad blood
between her and your royal. And is it true that she has said that she
will beat her? He said they have done [their] investigations to know
that she’s not on good terms with her. ‘From day one, she doesn’t like
her. So, they’ve told the President to reshuffle her or else, anything
could happen to their royal in the morning’.
UNKNOWN LADY: And I
said; this girl, you’ve gone to this extent. Every day, they discuss her
issue on radio (inaudible voice). Leave her. Do your part, you’re doing
your best to help her out but if she won’t give a care, stop it. Every
day, your name is in the papers. Every day, they’re discussing your
issue. It’s very bad. So, you cannot find any elderly person or party
member to resolve the issue. Journalists have taken charge of it and
now, you’ve also sent it to your hometown for your Chiefs to keep up
with the issue (inaudible voice). She doesn’t understand politics. She
thinks maybe because she’s a Minister, they cannot fire her.
VIC:
She said she is unperturbed even if she sacked from office. And I said
(inaudible voice), you’ll lose your prestige. Rachel is dull but I am
very intelligent.
UNKNOWN LADY: (Inaudible voice), she was not
articulate during her vetting. It was in the papers that she wasn’t
expressive. When she was vetted, she couldn’t talk. Let her be in her
corner and be her MP. (Inaudible voice), maybe she doesn’t know that
when she is sacked, it won’t affect her prestige.
VIC: She said
they should re-assign her. The President should reshuffle her and send
her where? So, when she is dismissed, she will rest in the house.
UNKNOWN
LADY: As you said, Nana Oye was her Nana Oye before she got a
Ministerial appointment. Who doesn’t know Nana Oye? Both international
and local, we know her. (Indistinct voice)
VIC: And her husband is no mean person than Tony Lithur; President’s lawyer (laughs amidst indistinct voice).
UNKNOWN
LADY: It appears she did not think about it well. There are some people
you don’t court trouble for yourself with. Ladies are like that.
Anywhere three ladies meet, there is trouble. You were very lucky to
have been sent to a place where a male is the head. If it were to be a
lady or an office for two ladies (incomplete voice)
VIC: (Inaudible voice). Me, Multi TV; what didn’t I see at Multi TV?
UNKNOWN
LADY: Ladies lack character. Rachel, as you said, she is arrogant.
Because no matter what, Nana Oye Lithur is older than you and is also
your boss. So, in any case, you have to know how to (inaudible voice),
just do what you’re told to do. Yes boss, yes boss; (inaudible voice),
will she also control you in your house too? (Inaudible voice), every
day, then they are discussing you on radio. Every day, then the papers
will take it on. She should be careful. Her household should advise her.
Then they also held a press conference. They should have talked to her a
lot. She went to tell them a different thing.
UNKNOWN LADY: They
asked him that Nana (chief of Gomoa), are you not sure that your royal
(Rachel) has massaged her side of the story? But have you gone to the
mother she’s working with to ask her about the issue? They said, no.
(Inaudible voice) One person has told her part of the story to you and
you won’t go and ask the other party about what really transpired.
Because she is your royal, she has said this nicely. But maybe, she is
the one to be blamed and doesn’t want to accept it. And maybe because
she wants to denigrate the woman, that’s why it is out.
VIC:
Rachel; Anita Owusu told me that Rachel is very ambitious (inaudible
voice). You can’t fight your Minister and you want to be friends with
me. Does Tony Lithur not have clout for Oye to be my enemy?
UNKNOWN LADY: She will be your enemy forever. Just stay away from her. Let her go.
VIC: Oh, I have stayed away forever.
UNKNOWN LADY: When she calls to find out how you’re faring; oh, you’re busy. So, you’ll call her back. That’s all.
VIC: This Rachel who was even stuttering during vetting. (Inaudible voice)
UNKNOWN
LADY: She should humble herself. She said she will disgrace Nana Oye
Lithur. And I said, what can you do to disgrace her?
VIC: Who?
UNKNOWN LADY: Rachel
VIC: Where did she say it?
UNKNOWN
LADY: They said it in the papers; that she will disgrace her. And I
said, you’ll disgrace her but what do you know about her? For how long
have you worked with her? And what has she done that you want to
discredit her. If you dare scandalize her, then, you’ve also brought
shame on yourself. This Rachel is very bold.
VIC: You, Rachel, have become ‘born one’. Oye Lithur is (inaudible expression) married.
UNKNOWN LADY: So, why do you want to disgrace her?
VIC:
She said it’s affecting her relationship. And I said; it’s your fault.
Even the fiancé she wants to marry will jilt her. As soon as she loses
her ministerial appointment, her boyfriend will ditch her. Is that how
you do things? Oye Lithur didn’t go public, you did.
UNKNOWN
LADY: Yes, she will let it out. Yet, you’re her subordinate. She should
be careful. If her family won’t tell her, just leave her life for her.
In politics, each one for himself…(Inaudible voice)
VIC:
Everybody has their way of doing things. You, Sena, have your own way. I
say she will be alone. The President won’t speak on this matter
(inaudible voice). Now, you can’t go to Oye Lithur’s place. You will
still be a deputy in that office but Oye won’t delegate any
responsibility to you.
UNKNOWN LADY: Then, you’ll just stay there.
VIC: You’re just there.
UNKNOWN LADY: When you close, you pick your bag and go. Your boss, how can you be at loggerheads with her?
VIC: Why can’t you Rachel just humble yourself at all in this world you’re in?
UNKNOWN LADY: Or she is from an affluent family, right?
VIC: What money? (Inaudible voice) So, you were not there at first. Her father is very wretched.
UNKNOWN LADY: She won’t think about him. Nana Oye Lithur’s educational background; you’ve not even attained a quarter.
VIC: When she calls me, I don’t pick up again. (Inaudible voice), I cannot walk with you.
UNKNOWN LADY: Yes, it will affect you.
VIC: It will affect me.
UNKNOWN
LADY: As for that, just think about yourself. If everybody in their
Ministry were to bring their boss’ issue out, will it be proper?
VIC: Recently, what Omane (Boamah, Minister of Communications) did to me? And I said you think nobody (inaudible voice).
UNKNOWN LADY: You think nobody has a problem. Everybody has a problem but everybody has decided to be quiet.
VIC:
What Omane (Boamah) did to me; I went to him for money but as for me, I
can live with it. He is a Minister, so, it’s his time.
UNKNOWN LADY: You shut up.
VIC: That’s his time.
UNKNOWN LADY: You too, your time will come.
VIC: Your time will come.
UNKNOWN LADY: So, just submit to him.
VIC: (Inaudible voice). Nana (inaudible name) has grown wings. I was shocked when she said that.
UNKNOWN LADY: You say your boss has grown wings. In any case, were you the one who watched her grow wings?
VIC: When she said that, I was shocked. (Inaudible voice), “Nana Oye has grown wings”.
UNKNOWN
LADY: But how well does she know her for her to say she (Oye Lithur)
has grown wings? If it’s somebody you cater for then you can say she’s
grown wings.
VIC: When God takes away wisdom from you? The spirit
of humility! (Inaudible name), tells me that I should always be humble.
Be humble every day. If you humble yourself, the person gives you
everything. Omane (Boamah), for instance, gives me everything. He gives
me everything.
UNKNOWN LADY: When you work wholeheartedly, he will give you the work. If he has money, he will give you.
VIC:
I mean sometimes you go wrong. I told Rachel that sometimes if I err, I
write a note (email) apologizing to Omane Boamah. You can’t do this to
your boss.
UNKNOWN LADY: So, every time, he likes you. I think lack of humility is her problem.
VIC: Rachel’s problem is humility. It won’t take long, it will destroy her (inaudible voice).
UNKNOWN LADY: That too, if you don’t have, it will destroy your life.
VIC:
I tell you Rachel is arrogant. We attended a funeral rite. Hon. Collins
Dauda’s wife came but couldn’t find a place to sit down. So, I stood up
and offered her my seat but Rachel told me to sit down. And I said
Collins Dauda’s wife, even if I’m older than her, she’s my Minister wife
because she’s equal to her husband. And I said, Rachel, you’re not
humble at all.
UNKNOWN LADY: Just consider the fact that if it was an elderly woman, so, you wouldn’t give up your seat for her?
VIC:
Oh, she’s a young girl. Not that she’s an elderly woman; your
Minister’s wife? When we went to the funeral in Kumasi, as Omane’s wife
was seated; I was standing beside her when Omane was not around till
Omane came.
UNKNOWN LADY: So, that is how it should be. Thus, you are always in the person’s good books. Then, that Rachel has a problem.
VIC: You show submission and love to them.
UNKNOWN LADY: She has a problem.
VIC:
Why, is Omane’s wife a kid? Will she lose her way? She won’t get lost
but that’s your Minister’s wife. Rachel will never serve her Minister’s
wife. Me, I can serve Omane’s wife. You won’t humble yourself at all in
this world. I don’t want to see her face again in my life.
UNKNOWN LADY: But she’s not beautiful too.
VIC:
Oh, where’s Rachel’s beauty? Paul (inaudible name) said oh, no, she’s
beautiful. And I said; why, Paul, this is what you want?
UNKNOWN LADY: (Inaudible voice) you’re not pretty yet you won’t also humble yourself. And you’re so arrogant.
VIC: You do some makeup (inaudible voice). Rachel is not beautiful. Sena is rather beautiful.
UNKNOWN LADY: Sena is a beautiful girl.
VIC: Sena rather humbles herself. She talks with humility.
UNKNOWN LADY: Rachel really has a problem.
VIC: Rachel is exposing herself too much.
UNKNOWN
LADY: (Inaudible voice) within this short time, you’ve started.
Ministers, Deputy Ministers; when they fight; it doesn’t come out in the
(news) papers for them to say like hers.
VIC: She sends it.
UNKNOWN LADY: But if she doesn’t send it, how will they get to know?.
VIC:
Thinking you’ll destroy Oye Lithur. But she doesn’t know she’s
destroying her own self but when we say it to a point, then it remains
there. It ends.
UNKNOWN LADY: Oye Lithur, can something move
her? Even when Ghanaians vilified her that the President should not give
her a position, it didn’t even ruffle her.
VIC: As for me, I don’t want to get close to Rachel at all.
UNKNOWN LADY: Let her be. She’s averse to good counsel.
VIC: She doesn’t listen.
UNKNOWN LADY: So, leave her to live her life.
VIC:
I will say that (inaudible voice) Rachel, the way you’re becoming
unpopular with (inaudible voice); I want to stay away from you for a
while. Because you’re my friend; Oye too is my friend. Oye was my friend
before I got to know you. You must always join the bigger side. You’re
throwing pebbles against a giant.
VIC: Do you know that some people of Akan descent rained insults on me because of Rachel? Afia Pokuaa. (Inaudible voice)
UNKNOWN LADY: I see; that Afia Pokuaa.
VIC: Afia Pokuaa can insult me? (Speaking inaudibly)
VIC: Do you recall when we were going for the vetting, Rachel called me and I gave her a few lessons?
VIC:
And she was also saying, in the morning, you will also be vetted yet
you have time for someone. I gave Rachel some guidelines. (Inaudible
interaction) She said; she’s an MP. She said; she wants to link me up
with a male partner. (Inaudible expression amidst car horns) Can you get
me a boyfriend? You, with this ugly face?
UNKNOWN LADY: Does she know your taste in men?
VIC: Such ugly face.
UNKNOWN
LADY: Why didn’t you tell her that if you were really in need of a male
partner, you would have about 2000 men at your beck and call?
VIC: She doesn’t even know.
UNKNOWN LADY: You’re just not ready. If the two of you are to go soliciting for men, who would someone prefer first?
VIC: Don’t mind her.
UNKNOWN LADY: She has a huge problem. (Indistinct interaction)
VIC:
So, Oye is bad (inaudible voice). But there are two of you at the
ministry, why is that you think she hates you? If she’s such a bad
person, Sena is the more beautiful one, has a great body and
well-endowed at the hips; why does she not hate Sena? But you, with this
ugly face; you think she detests you? It’s your character. Everybody
knows if Oye will fight with someone, then, probably it should be with
Sena not you.
VIC: "Why should she be at war with the Minister? What's the point? People and ambition. People do not just buy their time."
VIC:
She thinks Oye Lithur is not giving her chance to shine. But take a
look at the constitution okay? There’s no role for [Deputy]. Actually,
Deputy position is not in the constitution. There’s no defined role.
Everything about the Minister; the performance contract between the
President is with the Minister.
VIC: That Rachel (inaudible
voice). I told her. You say Oye, how can you fight OyeLithur? (Inaudible
voice) If she just decide to lower her ego. I mean I told her that in
the constitution, Oye can even decide (car noise). (Inaudible voice) so,
the real appointment is the Minister appointment. Deputy is to support
the Minister (inaudible voice) and she says that none of his people have
become Minister before. I said, listen to me; the constitution also
says that President may appoint Ministers. The only portfolio that’s
defined by the constitution is the Attorney General.
VIC: So, the
point is that a lot of us, young people, are ambitious and meanwhile
they don’t read. And they are not politically astute. Before you fire
any ammunition, you must see whether your opponent has more than what
you have. You have no pedigree; no pedigree. [You don’t have a father]
Your father is a Chairman in the NPP. One of the constituency Chairmen
in NPP, then, you want to fight a woman that her appointment elicited
attack from the church including Presby Church. But yet, the President
went ahead to confirm her.
VIC: You must look at the way you are
appointed first; the consideration of the appointment before. Rachel
appears to be holier than thou but she’s deadly. Me, I know her. She
appears to be decent in public. That’s the public perception about her. I
cannot do half what she does. She has dated men in the party. I’ve not
dated anybody in the party but people think I’m rather dating people in
the party. So, that look helps her in the public, Oye has bad public
image.
VIC: But here in Ghana, public propriety is not important.
Anane; Kufour left Anane’s post for Anane to return and have it back.
What did Ghanaians not say? You understand. So, the person is in office,
the President is in office. Now, you can find a journalist saying that,
well, the President has no discretion. The President can even decide
not to have Ministers, you understand, but he cannot decide not to have
an Attorney General. So, you must measure all these variables.”
VIC:
Tony Lithur has been the friend of the Rawlingses, been a friend to the
President John, now and his wife. I learnt even before even the
verdict, Nana was with the Justices and all that. You don’t know the
role she has played for us to win the court case. Then, you want to use
your unintelligence to overthrow her. Yeah.
VIC: No, there were
no two Deputy Ministers at the Gender before (inaudible voice). They’re
institutional constraints. When you come to my office, my AC has broken
down and then, my Secretaries have AC. You understand what I’m saying.
Now, these are not issues that come to the public domain. The woman says
that go to Social Welfare, write a memo to me; let them put that
together for you. So, she has given you that role. She gave you Social
Welfare. She gave Sena, Children and something something. You
understand.
VIC: Now, Oye Lithur also is not the one to find an
office for you. It’s the Chief Director. Now, you are using the
structures there to go against Oye Lithur. Oye Lithur issued one
statement which made you appear that you are unintelligent. I asked her:
‘Rachel, you and Oye Lithur; who does the Ghanaian public believe is
unintelligent?’ She says her. I said yes. I said not just you. You, Sena
and myself; Ghanaian public think we are unintelligent. So, you cannot
fight your boss. She will use that cleverness against you.
VIC:
The woman issued a statement. They said, oh law law. They’re using law.
Things were not done appropriately and quoting some sections of the law.
And then, almost stating her credentials that she has an LLM, LLB, LB,
LM. She has that credibility. And Oye Lithur is an institution. Oye
Lithur was Oye Lithur before she entered into politics. The three of us,
i, you and Sena; it is politics that has given us a name. We still
don’t even have root, proper roots yet. And I said: that Rachel, who are
the strong alliances you have?
VIC: Tony Lithur and John Mahama,
they’ve got an alliance. They are allies, you understand. They defend
each other. Rachel, who do you have? And I heard that she may be
actually sad (inaudible voice). I said why, people listen to people who
did not influence their appointment. If anything at all, go to the first
lady and say to the first lady.
VIC: She thinks she’s the only
Minister from Gomoa. I said but the President can appoint another person
from Gomoa and kick you out. You understand. With all that you have
done, it’s like you’re throwing pebbles to a giant. Oye Lithur does not
care.
VIC: And you have used your best ammunition. You used it
publicly (vehicular noise). She can tell the President, remove this girl
(Rachel), (things screeching). Don’t fight your boss, that’s it. And,
well, you can fight your boss if your boss (inaudible voice). Once the
person is a boss, it means that by that social power relations; the
person is higher. Do you know what I told her? That instead of fighting
with her, if you cannot work with her; what you should do is to lobby
another Minister.
VIC: Use whatever means you can lobby so that
when there is a reshuffle, you find a way to lobby to go to that
Ministry. That’s what I would have done. That’s the solution.
UNKNOWN
LADY:Oye Lithur may not be happy. Oye Lithur is my friend, you know,
before I know Rachel (inaudible voice). I don’t want her to go and say
to the President that dismiss Rachel (inaudible voice amidst cars
screeching).
VIC: Rachel is too ambitious (inaudible voice). Do you know what she said? Oye has grown wings.
VIC:
Rachel is very egoistic (inaudible voice). Then we went somewhere and
the last time on radio, she said she (Oye Lithur) wants to arrest me. Is
it possible to arrest an MP? And I said, Rachel, maybe you don’t
understand politics too well. And I said, you cannot boast of GHC 100000
in your account or dollars. You’re there fighting. [Instead of] If
you’re not making money for your Ministry, forget about your Ministry.
Find ways, build alliances. Both national and international, get people
to protect you.
VIC: Just some cash to better our lives (starts
laughing); we’ve given birth to children (continues to laugh) and their
teeth have even grown. It’s crazy. I wish her all the best but
(inaudible expression).
VIC: She’s promising Sena that she should
go and tell the Chief of Staff (inaudible voice). And I said, Rachel,
initially you said you’ll do it yourself. Why do you now need somebody
else to do it? Now, you realize that you need the assistance of other
people. So, I called Sena and I said Sena; don’t be a fool.
VIC:
You came to politics alone. Even me, I’m not a friend. Before you decide
to do this stupid move, you must consult your husband because you’re
married. Consult your family because your image and disgrace does not
just come to you. Consult your Chiefs, your constituency. What do you
mean?
VIC: You think that you’re gods in the party. There are so
many other beautiful ladies in the party who have not gotten
appointment. You, Sena, your appointment came last minute at Parliament.
You were crying like a baby. And I said, you won an MP; didn’t you win?
She said yes. Rachel, didn’t Rachel win? Me, did I win my seat? Did I
win my seat?
VIC: My appointment was solid way back. So, what
does it tell you? That even in terms of influence, I’ve more influence
than you and Rachel. Even you who won your seats, they have crammed you,
two, in the Gender. And you won’t seek wisdom. The moment you lose your
Ministerial job, you lose your might and influence. Then you become
unpopular in your constituency. When somebody contests you, you see that
your place is in trouble. Then you’ll be done, you’re finished.
VIC:
Oh yes. She said Vic, thank you; Rachel has been putting pressure on
me. I said are you stupid. Are you stupid? Why should this small girl be
controlling you? I was with the first lady (Lordina Mahama); ask
Rachel. She dissed you in front of the first lady. That day, she dissed
me in front of the first lady. (Inaudible voice), she was quiet. And I
told (inaudible voice). Omane (Boamah) said was not this lady you were
holding brief for?
VIC: I sat in front of Omane (Boamah, Minister
of Communications) defending Rachel for one hour. She had a problem and
then, everybody had [their] opinion about her. I made her look good in
front of Omane and the other Ministers. Then, in front of the first lady
(Lordina), you want to diss me. Let her sit there. She thinks politics
is a joke.
VIC: You want to fight Oye Lithur. Tony Lithur
controls three Ministries. That Rachel is not wise. When I told her, she
said (inaudible voice). She didn’t even know Oye Lithur was Tony
Lithur’s wife. She went somewhere and said, oh this lawyer (during the
court case); that time they had not started their brawl. This lawyer
looks handsome and people addressed her that that (Tony Lithur) is Oye’s
husband.
VIC: You want the President to choose you, Rachel
Appoh, [who couldn’t even express yourself well during your vetting]
over his loyal friend’s wife who is always with them in the house. Oye
has access to the house (inaudible voice).You were even stopped when
going to the President’s house. Soldiers stopped you outside and called
for Madam to decide whether they should let you in.
VIC: But it’s
true. That is our level in the party. I went there with you (inaudible
voice). I even have more access than she has. So, most often, she used
me to get there. So, we stand outside. Then, the Soldiers, even though
they know we’re Deputy Ministers; they refused you entry. You’ve stood
there for 30 minutes, now, what does that tell you?
VIC: Maybe,
she thinks she is, she is [I don’t know]. (Inaudible voice) She’s not
taking it. She said Oye can be reshuffled because there’s been a
precedent. Me, I told Rachel that it’s dangerous but as for me, I
understand politics very well. When I make 1 million dollars (inaudible
voice). If you have money, then you can control people. People can
listen to you. It’s crazy.
VIC: (Seemingly, responding to a voice on the phone), it is her. Don’t you see her character? She’s loud-mouthed.
VIC: I am down on credit on this phone, (inaudible voice). Okay, alright; right. She is a fool.
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